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Rin and Shigure, "Nothing's Been the Same"
by Ysabet (umadoshi)
at February 9th, 2006 (11:45 pm)

current mood: focused
current song: Ani DiFranco - Tangled Up In Blue

Title: Nothing's Been the Same
Author: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Characters: Rin and Shigure (non-pairing)
Rating: 13+ or so . . . *shrugs*
Notes: Spoilers for ch. 78, 79, and 104-107. Title (and icon text) from "Hey Jupiter" by Tori Amos.

1. Shigure was ten years old when Rin was born. He remembers watching her mother holding her, and comparing it to the way Ren treated Akito. He also remembers noticing that her mother was a little too eager to let other people hold her. As a baby, she reminded him of Akito, who he was rarely allowed to touch. He found himself holding her often.

2. Rin was eight years old when she had her first New Year's dance. She fell asleep soon after she finished, slumped against Shigure's shoulder. After he finished eating, he carried her home; since her parents were still out celebrating, he sat in her bedroom with her after tucking her in. He stayed there and listened to the fading sounds of the family's party until her parents returned at dawn.

3. After Rin's parents sent her away, Shigure went into Hatori's office and removed some of the recent pictures from her medical file. He looked at them for a long time, and then got very, very drunk. He tucked the pictures away in a folder in his desk, but never needed to refresh his memory by looking at them again.

4. When she was fifteen, Rin dropped by to show him a new outfit from her increasingly-daring wardrobe. She stood outside and spun around for him, showing off the plunging neckline and the laced boots that came up almost to the hem of the skirt. The look in her eyes was challenging rather than seductive, but he obediently watched the way the clothes clung to her when she moved. When she stopped turning, he gave her an approving smirk, but it was hollow. The photos hidden in his desk were all he could see.

5. After Shigure first moved out of the Main House, Rin visited him frequently. She came during school hours, partly to avoid running into Yuki. Occasionally they talked, but usually she simply wandered through the house, and he let her have her illusion of solitude.

6. Her visits abruptly stopped for almost two months--long enough for Shigure to draw his own conclusions. When she finally came by again, he tested his theory by casually mentioning Hatsuharu's name while pretending not to look at her. He felt a faint twinge of pride that her voice remained steady when she answered, but a tremor went through her hands, and her hips shifted involuntarily. Fear and desire, he thought automatically, and made a mental note to leave a fairly explicit manuscript someplace where Haru would find it. Rin had turned to look up at him, puzzled by his silence, and he found himself smiling at the idea of her eyes rolling back in ecstasy. It was a much more pleasant picture than the ones in his memory.

7. The first time Shigure visited her in the hospital after she 'fell' from the second-story window of a storage room, she was still so drugged against the pain that it was impossible to hold a conversation. Sitting silently beside her for an hour, while a sunbeam inched its way across the bed, gave him ample time to burn a new picture of her into his mind. Fresh bruises peering out from the bandages on her face and throat; the awkward flutter of her hands as she tried to concentrate enough to speak coherently; the way the nurses had positioned her to make her as comfortable as possible despite the gaping cut that had laid her shoulder blade bare . . . It was the first time in years he had been able to see her as she was, not as she had been. It was such a relief that he almost smiled.

8. The next time he saw her, she tried to sell herself to him. Bandages and bruises gone, leaving only the scar that Hatori suspected would mark her for the rest of her life; her eyes no longer held even a trace of the wounded child he had held onto. He watched her while she spoke, dark eyes and soft lips only inches from his face, and tuned out the analytical part of his mind that noted how the light cadences that had made her voice so expressive were dulled by the harshness of the words in her mouth. For a moment he wondered if he would be able to pretend she was Akito again. And then he imagined what Akito would do to her.

9. He almost fucked her anyway.

10. Rin silently left the offer open for months, although they never spoke of it. Shigure watched the way she moved when they were alone, and she watched him watching her. By the time she was re-hospitalized, he knew the lines of her body as well as if she'd been in his bed. But after that initial moment of weakness, he was never tempted by her again.


11. There is no "first memory" of Shigure in Rin's mind: her early childhood is saturated with his presence. Growing up, they lived close enough together in the compound that she saw him nearly every day of her life until she left her parents' home forever.

12. Shigure spent most of his time with Hatori and Ayame, and Rin--seeing how he dismissed most of Kureno's attempts to tag along--rarely followed any of them around. But when he was alone Shigure often came to play with her. "Play" with him might mean sitting outside and listening to him read, but it was just as likely to mean taking part in a prank that would get her in trouble for ruining her clothes. Rin was happy either way; an hour of Shigure's undivided attention was hard to come by, even for the grown-ups.

13. The first time her father beat her was the first time either of her parents had even hinted at hurting her; it came as such a shock that she simply sat still under the first few blows, rather than crying or trying to escape. It was also the only time she fled the house afterwards, bolting out into the sunlit compound. Outside, her instinct to flee failed her; there was nowhere to go. Shigure found her standing in the middle of a walking path, blinking back tears, and silently took her back to his house. He didn't ask what was wrong, and she didn't tell him; instead, she drank the tea he made her, and sat staring out the window at her own house until his parents told her it was time to go home.

14. As an adolescent, Rin was never sure what Shigure thought of her: he treated her with a bizarre mixture of careless affection and amusement that left her no room to get her bearings. In moments of apparent honesty, he dropped hints on how to manipulate people and deflect attention from herself; she learned just enough to recognize his mastery of those arts, and to stop trusting him.

15. When Rin told him that she didn't trust him, Shigure smiled and promised never to lie to her. Neither of them pretended to believe that the promise addressed the problem, but she kept coming back to him.

16. She was on a school trip the day Shigure left the Main House, and it was a week or two before she could find someone who would discreetly tell her where he had gone. When he answered the door, there was a momentary flash of such bitterness in his eyes that she expected him to tell her to leave.

17. She never told him about her relationship with Haru, but never doubted that he knew. What she could never figure out was whether he approved.

18. When she initially offered herself to him, she had no illusions about how Shigure would treat her if he accepted. In the hospital, biding her time until she was discharged, she had plenty of opportunity to imagine it, to dread his callousness, to harden her heart against it.

19. By the time Akito banished her to the Cat's room, she had begun to despair so thoroughly that even the thought of Shigure's careless touch seemed appealing compared to the shell she'd built around herself.

20. The first time they saw each other after she was freed, she recognized the sound of his footsteps behind her before he even spoke. When he convinced her to sit and listen to him, she found that, despite everything, she still naturally sat closer to him than she would with anyone else but Haru. Only their knees and arms touched, but it was enough to remind her of her childhood: Shigure spinning her around until she was dizzy, letting her curl up beside him to nap. For a moment, she let herself ignore the shame and confusion he made her feel, and dared to believe him.


Posted by: Bonnie lass (sleepdebtfairy)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:52 am (UTC)
FB/Hiro and Rin/New Year's


I like how you portrated Shigure as not having any sexual attractions to Rin, other than wanting to pretend she is Akito. It's very refreshing. ^^

Loved this, adding to memories, the usual. *_* Favourites were: #1, 4, 8, 9, 10, 14, 17 (I've been wondering that too), 20. Squee. Very awesome ending. (er, last fact, I mean)

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:17 pm (UTC)
Rin 'unblessed' (selphie)

I like how you portrated Shigure as not having any sexual attractions to Rin, other than wanting to pretend she is Akito. It's very refreshing. ^^

Somehow *more* disturbing (to me, anyway ^^) than just being attracted to her, but . . . I've never imagined Shigure as what you'd call an emotionally healthy person.

(I still want to know if Akito found out about Rin and Haru from him. Grr.)

Posted by: Bonnie lass (sleepdebtfairy)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 05:44 pm (UTC)

Yeah, it is disturbing.. but it just works for him. ^^

(Me too. \: )

Posted by: メー (meghsta)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 09:21 pm (UTC)

(I still want to know if Akito found out about Rin and Haru from him. Grr.)

I've never really hated Shigure, despite all he's done. But if this were true, I'd begin to hate him in earnest. :\

Posted by: Lina (chibi_plum)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 05:53 am (UTC)
Furuba-Not Broken

Ack...only got to seven...but I just wanted to comment thus far. Shigure's a very visual person so I really like how the pictures keep coming up. That's all I got until I get a chance to read the rest. -_- But, nice portrayal of both of them. Take care.

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:17 pm (UTC)
Rin and Shigure assassin (Flamika)

^^ Glad you're liking it so far!

Posted by: Lina (chibi_plum)
Posted at: February 13th, 2006 08:33 pm (UTC)
Furuba-Behind the smile

*squeals* Awesome! And you were worried about your depiction of Shigure. I have always imagined that even though he seemingly declined her offer, he felt something very carnal in response to her proposition. The comparison of her to Akito is extremely accurate. She is everything that Akito is not…exotic and beautiful. Akito hides behind bitter masculinity, and even though Shigure cannot help but love her, he wants her to see herself as a woman. I’m always really annoyed by Rin writers that show her to be completely disgusted with Shigure because she has him all figured out. While she is intuitive enough to see beneath his façade, she relies on him for instruction. If not, she would have never gone to him in the first place. It’s obvious that there is a connection between them that the readers are supposed to mull over. Some people find the pairing creepy, and while I am not a big fan of it (because I prefer AkkiGure), I think there is a lot to be written about them outside of the sexual attraction that they might share. Shigure’s very bizarre with other women. Especially Tohru. There are moments when he says something that could completely change his character, but those kinds of things aren’t delivered with much clarity. (Ex: Chapter 111 when he tells Tohru he probably should have dreamed of someone like her). He’s a bit crazy if you ask me. XD But no one knows what he is thinking, and I like that you made him an enigma in her eyes, even though she probably understands him more than his best friends do at times. ~_^

Okay…let’s have them. All of your Shigure/Rin fics. Where are they?

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 13th, 2006 09:39 pm (UTC)
Haru & Rin murder (flamika)

I find them pretty creepy as an actual pairing, but the dynamic between them is so deep and messed up that I can't help but love it. And I keep coming back that the one panel of him thinking about her in vol. 12, and trying to work out what led up to it . . . it drives me a little nuts. >.>

Um . . . *rummages* I have them interact in my fics as often as possible, but I've only got one story that's specifically about them. Jaded is pretty old, too--I wrote it before we found out about Akito, and before we knew for sure that Kazuma was a presence in Rin's childhood. *pets poor out-of-canon story*

Posted by: Occupation: Fandom (flamika)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 06:59 am (UTC)
shigure is a mommy-fucker

Nice. ^^ I like how Rin's section came in a full circle (or half-circle...sorry, it's 1 a.m. at th emoment) from not trusting to believing him again.

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:21 pm (UTC)
Rin corset image (flamika)

I kinda like it too, but that didn't keep my brain from having a little "No! No! Silly girl!" spazz when I was writing it. My suspicion is that she *doesn't* trust him--not a strategist, but not dumb, either--but perhaps wants to trust him more than is safe. (I have a quiet dread that he knew damn well that she was locked up, and did nothing. ;_;)

Posted by: Occupation: Fandom (flamika)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:28 pm (UTC)
rin & hiro

I also suspect that Shigure knew she'd been locked away. I mean, if Kagura had picked up on the idea that something bad had happened to Rin, I'm sure Shigure had more than just a feeling. But I also think that his face when he saw Rin for the first time after her imprisonment was a little remorseful, or maybe just really relieved (or rather, as much relief as Shigure will allow himself to show.)

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:38 pm (UTC)
Rin forgiveness (lune_de_papel)

Kagura does technically have the home court advantage, but yeah. :/ Thing is, I think I'd be bothered less by Shigure knowing and doing nothing if I believed that he doesn't care at all about anyone but himself and Akito. But since my gut feeling is that he cares about Rin a *lot*, just in a his own sidelong and messed-up way . . . Remorse and relief at seeing her both make sense, but his agenda wears me out emotionally. ;_; *very tired of Rin being sacrificed by everyone who comes in contact with her*

Posted by: Too cute for evil (ginny_t)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 12:59 pm (UTC)
Gimme tea! (by epi_lj)

This was nice. I like how you structured it. And I still have that fondness for (and strange almost-groundless belief in) Shigure.

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:18 pm (UTC)
Rin and Shigure (Flamika)

*snuggles* Well, I guess we'll find out soon if your faith is justifed. ^^ (I rather hope it is, too.)

Posted by: Fleurette (fleurette)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:08 pm (UTC)
akitothesame kthxbaicons

Well done! I really like the dynamic you established between the two...it makes a lot of sense!

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 10th, 2006 04:23 pm (UTC)
Rin dress of knives (flamika)

^^ Thank you! I'm glad you liked it--I think their dynamic is deep and complex, but I have a really hard time pinning it down in a concrete way. So I'm glad if any of it came across. ^_^

Posted by: MsCongeniality (mscongeniality)
Posted at: February 12th, 2006 04:38 am (UTC)

Sorry about the belated comment, I'm catching up on about a week's worth of missed fic.

Anyway, I've been keeping an eye on this community, even if I haven't been contributing, but this piece is just wonderful. I very much like your characterization.

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: February 12th, 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
Rin map (sleepdebtfairy)

Comments at any time are good. ^^ Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.

This community is a lot of fun--I really like that it's such a different approach to character interpretation. Prose is wonderful, but it's nice to be able to just come out and say things sometimes.

Posted by: Bethany (euphonious_glow)
Posted at: March 19th, 2007 11:35 pm (UTC)
[shigure];catch me if you can :)

I'm always happy to find people who can characterize Shigure well, since "the closer you get, the farther he pulls away." I think this is a really interesting concept, and definitely a relationship that I want to read more of. I love both points of view, and how utterly in-character they are. I think my favorite Shigure piece was number 9, just in its creepiness factor. I must have re-read that scene multiple times, trying to interpret every little thing. And I liked Rin's part as well. She's starting to be my favorite female character in Fruits Basket, because there's just so many layers to her.

Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: March 20th, 2007 12:47 am (UTC)
Rin and Shigure (Flamika)

Thank you! (And thank you for the compliment on Jaded, too--I was just mentioning in my journal that it's one of my favorites. ^^) I don't know that I trust myself to write Shigure, generally, although I really like playing him and Rin off each other. Her offer to him is still one of the things that disturbs me most in the entire series. I'm looking forward to using them together in some post-series work (eventually).

Rin is just incredible. She breaks my heart on so many levels.

Posted by: Bethany (euphonious_glow)
Posted at: March 19th, 2007 11:43 pm (UTC)
[shigure x akito];savior

Silly me, I almost posted that I'd seen this done before, when I saw the website on your LJ page and DUH, it was you who wrote it. I'm talking about Jaded, which was really lovely.

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